Daily Roundup 1.23.07
Posted on Tuesday, January 23rd, 2007 at 8:39 am by Xteve
Locke opines that if you want it, you just got to believe. Or maybe that was Lenny Kravitz.
Here come the Nuggs with serious firepower. And Ray with a parting shot.
No NBA teammates have ever played through a season averaging at least 30 points each. The last tandem to finish first and second in scoring were Alex English (28.4) and Kiki Vandeweghe (26.7) of the 1982-83 Nuggets.
“It is an amazing feat to be able to do that,” Allen said. “There are going to be a lot of nights where you have to score 40 because some nights you are going to score 15. To be successful … they will have to learn to play with each other.”
Allen has a unique perspective because his coach in Milwaukee, ex-Sonics coach George Karl, is now coaching the Nuggets.
When Allen was asked how Karl handled the egos of his Big Three (Allen, Robinson and Cassell) in Milwaukee, Allen smiled and said, “That’s why I’m here in Seattle,” implying that Karl didn’t handle it, so he chose to trade Allen for Gary Payton instead.
Allen added that Karl has had problems with players who have larger reputations than his own.
“I think he taught me a lot, but people in Milwaukee got tired of him just as they did here,” Allen said. “It all boils down to how they win.”
Ray also gives Dave Boling a shooting clinic.
“I get here when I do so I can have the court to myself,” Allen explained. “In regular warm-ups, you can shoot three or four in a row and never see if it goes in or not. There might be a big man down low shooting jump hooks and knocking your ball away. I need to see the ball go through the hoop.”
Allen started the routine “eight or nine years ago,” and has adapted it as he discovered more about what he needed to do every night on the floor. “I had to learn what my game was,” he said.
“Going into my third year, I realized what my main contribution would be, shooting 3s, playing in transition, coming off quick picks.”
Couple of stories on Andre Brown today: Go 2 Guy’s, and then Percy’s.
“There’s a lot of opportunities that I left on the table by not going [directly] to the D-League,” Brown said. “It’s not always about the money. You just got to trust yourself. It’s fair to say that I didn’t trust myself back then.
“Even if I don’t make it with the Sonics, I learned to trust myself and I know that I can play in this league. I know I’m going to make it. It’s taking me longer than other guys, but I also appreciate it more because of what I’ve been through.”
Arena stuff, Bellevue and Renton, etc.
Frank also reports Ray’s shot at Karl. Actually, that’s on his blog so I should say blogs.
“I think that this team has gone through just about every distraction you could possibly go through,” Hill said. “Half the season with the schedule like it was, the travel problems that we’ve had, the injuries that we’ve had, the expectations, the new ownership, the 40th anniversary, it’s just been one thing after another. To their credit, they have fought through it.”
Pepsi Center article. I’ve been to the Pepsi Center and it is nothing less than a fantastic venue for both hoops and concerts. It’s a little big for hoops, with three levels, but that’s the definition of “multipurpose”. Sadly, I doubt that either the politicians nor the population of Seattle have their respective **** together enough to make something like it happen up here. This is Seattle, home of the half ass solution.
January 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 am
Pepsi Center would be ideal.
With I-91 everyone who enjoyed going to NCAA tourney events, does anyone really think they’re going to give profits away just to have a game in the Seattle City Limits. We’ll all be having to head to Spokane from here on out.
UNLESS….By Jove I Think He’s Got It.
January 23rd, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Just curious, are posts still being eaten? I haven’t had a problem since Chris trimmed the filter.
January 23rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
“does anyone really think they’re going to give profits away just to have a game in the Seattle City Limits. ”
It’s really funny. The other day on Seely’s blog there was a guy who actually claimed that KeyArena wouldn’t lose any concert business to a new suburban facility because:
“Key Arena will survive a competing venue - unless you think every promoter of concerts and other events wants to have to explain to tourning nationals exactly where the hell Renton and Bellevue are.”
As if anyone not from here would know the difference or care?
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January 23rd, 2007 at 1:14 pm
My first post disappeared into the web somewhere, but I’d like to point out that Seattle has built the Kingdome, Safeco Field and Quest Field, so it’s not as though the city is not capable of ponying up big dollars to build something substantial. From what I understand, Safeco Field is supposed to be one of the best facilities in all of major league baseball, and Quest Field gets nothing but rave reviews from NFL people. To say that Seattle does everything poorly (or half-***** as you put it) is a little misleading.
Not that I’m saying the city is without faults (see Rail, Mono).
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pm
“No NBA teammates have ever played through a season averaging at least 30 points each. The last tandem to finish first and second in scoring were Alex English (28.4) and Kiki Vandeweghe (26.7) of the 1982-83 Nuggets.”
Between the two of them Melo (28) and AI (23) scored 51 points last night.
One would hope they’re a bit tired tonight since this is the second game of a back to back but I’m not so sure. The Nuggets led by 20 points at the end of the first quarter against Memphis and coasted the rest of the game.
“I’ve been to the Pepsi Center and it is nothing less than a fantastic venue for both hoops and concerts. It’s a little big for hoops, with three levels, but that’s the definition of “multipurpose”.”
Those like Chris Van Dyk would argue that the Pepsi Center was privately funded. The fact is the owners recieved massive tax breaks with sales tax and property tax exemptions.
Speaking of CVD he was on New York Vinnie’s show last night on 710 KIRO AM. Without getting into details Vinnie pretty much shot down everyone of Van Dyk’s arguments saying if Van Dyk wanted these more important things he should be out pushing for them. The Sonics Arena and these were not mutually exclusive.
I like Vinnie better than anyone on KJR’s lineup. That station was foolish to get rid of him.
“It’s really funny. The other day on Seely’s blog there was a guy who actually claimed that KeyArena wouldn’t lose any concert business to a new suburban facility”
Since I was the other pro-arena poster in that thread I don’t know if I admire you or think you’re crazy for engaging that guy. The more he wrote the more ridiculous he sounded.
I’ve got a pretty good idea who that guy is. Without naming names he was one of the sponsors of the original monorail initiative. He also ran against Richard McIver for City Council but handily defeated.
Thank God. You think the currrent crop of clowns is bad.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pm
“I like Vinnie better than anyone on KJR’s lineup. That station was foolish to get rid of him.”
Vinnie’s cool. I like him too. I ran into him after the draft and we talked for a while. Like many he wasn’t too high on the Sene pick.
“The fact is the owners recieved massive tax breaks with sales tax and property tax exemptions.”
And sold out a fairly short time later too. Denver would be a good place for a one-note hater like Van Dyk to check out. When I was in high school the area that eventually became Coors Field was to put it charitably, a complete & total blighted ghetto with few if any businesses, poor roads and absolutely no investment…it looked similar to the poorest and least developed parts of Georgetown and Columbia City.
The last time I attended a game at Coors Field in 2004 I could not believe how the stadium had literally reinvented the entire neighborhood. New businesses were everywhere and the renovations were spreading as money poured into the area. It’s a completely new, valuable district that’s brought a lot back to the City where there was nothing before.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pm
I posted this in the Message Boards and was wondering what other people thought about an additional revenue stream to fund a new stadium (and other road improvement projects):
So, I am reading a pretty good book called “The Wisdom of Crowds” and in one of the chapters the author goes over a strategy that the city of London and the country of Singapore have used to help cut down on the amount of traffic in their respective areas.
Basically, drivers in these areas are required to pay a toll when they enter certain areas during peak driving times. For instance, if you want to go into downtown London during their rush hour period you are charged 5 pounds. In Signapore it is actually more widespread and it has proven to do a good job of cutting back on traffic.
To me, this is a great idea to generate revenue for the arena and cut down on traffic within the region. Why not charge tolls depending on what exit you choose when leaving the Freeway. You could potentially charge greater amounts for the more populated exits as well as charge extra for using certain exits to arenas during scheduled events.
I’d be interested to hear what other people think…
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm
“My first post disappeared into the web somewhere, but I’d like to point out that Seattle has built the Kingdome, Safeco Field and Quest Field, so it’s not as though the city is not capable of ponying up big dollars to build something substantial. From what I understand, Safeco Field is supposed to be one of the best facilities in all of major league baseball, and Quest Field gets nothing but rave reviews from NFL people. To say that Seattle does everything poorly (or half-***** as you put it) is a little misleading.
Not that I’m saying the city is without faults (see Rail, Mono). ”
well I didn’t say that Seattle does “everything” poorly … but point taken. I don’t think the Kingdome is a good example for your point though…that was a terrible facility cobbled together on the cheap compared to many of the multipurpose arenas built in the late 60s/early 70s. It was a decent football arena (high indoor volume doesn’t necessarily make it great, it still had poor sight lines and near the end of its tenure was falling apart), absolutely awful as a baseball venue, abysmally bad sound for concerts and not much of a draw for conventions despite its size.
I’m referring mostly to Seattle’s historical penchant for going for the cheapest possible solution which isn’t always the best. Back in September the Times had a great article on the viaduct from 1947, where the engineer in charge recommended building a tunnel to preserve the waterfront over an elevated structure.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Lets all give a hand to Locke and his analysis to the breakdancing tribute during halfime on Friday…
I one guy knows his breakdance it is definately David Locke
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Wanna feel old? It was 15 years ago today that George Karl was hired to coach the Sonics. January 23, 1992.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Well it is my understanding that the city had relatively little to do with the “design” of the stadiums. Just the funding for the initial portion of the stadium. Both the Ms and the Hawks were on the hook for any cost overruns.
I think it is pretty likely (based on other city inititated projects) that if the city had been completely in charge of the building of either Safeco or Qwest it would’ve been much more half a$$ed…
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Want to feel older?? The Raiders just hired an NFL coach who is 31…