2007-08 Awards
Posted on Tuesday, April 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 pm by Big Chris
Manu Ginobili named 6th Man of the Year.
Kevin Garnett named Defensive Player of the Year.
MVP….?
Kevin Durant to be named Rookie of the Year?
Discuss.
Posted on Tuesday, April 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 pm by Big Chris
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
MVP = Chris Paul…no argument about it
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:41 pm
MVP: Kobe
Rookie: KD in a landslide
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:47 pm
I wish they would wait to vote on the awards until after the playoffs.
That being said here is how I would vote:
Sixth man: Turiaf LAL just for cheering so freakin much. (I think this is a BS award)
GM of the Year:
1. Ainge BOS
2. No one is even close!
DPOY:
1. Chandler
2. Rasheed
3. KG
4. Duncan
5. Kobe
Coach:
1. B. Scott NO
2. P. Jackson LAL
3. J. Sloan UTA
4. R. Adelman HOU
5. Mr. Sonic POR
Most Improved:
1. Gay MEM
2. Rondo BOS
3. Bynum LAL
4. Turk ORL
5. Bass DAL
MVP:
1a. Kobe
1b. Paul
3. KG
4. Duncan
5. LeBron
MOS: (Most Overrated Superstar)
1. T-Mac
2. Dirk
3. AI
4. J-Kidd
5. D-Wade
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Oh ya…
ROY:
1. KD
2. Horford
3. Scola
4. Green
5. Landry
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Here are my choices for the awards.
NBA Most Valuable Player
Chris Paul
All-NBA First Team
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
All-NBA Second Team
Dwight Howard
Amare Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
Emanuel Ginobili
Steve Nash
All-NBA Third Team
Pau Gasol
Carlos Boozer
Paul Pierce
Allen Iverson
Deron Williams
NBA Defensive Player of the Year
Kevin Garnett
NBA All-Defensive First Team
Joel Przybilla
Kevin Garnett
Josh Smith
Raja Bell
Chris Paul
NBA All-Defensive Second Team
Radoslav Nesterovic
Rasheed Wallace
Shane Battier
Kobe Bryant
Rajon Rondo
NBA Rookie of the Year
Thaddeus Young
NBA All-Rookie First Team
Al Horford
Luis Scola
Thaddeus Young
Kevin Durant
Mike Conley, Jr.
NBA All-Rookie Second Team
Joakim Noah
Carl Landry
Al Thornton
Juan Carlos Navarro
Aaron Brooks
NBA Sixth Man
Emanuel Ginobili
NBA Most Improved Player
Rudy Gay
NBA Coach of the Year
Byron Scott
NBA Executive of the Year
Danny Ainge
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
GM: Ainge (this should be a one-man’s race)
Defensive: KG
Most Improved: Turkoglu
Coach: Byron Scott (with Mo Cheeks a close second)
MVP: Kobe
ROY: KD (Nobody else is even close. I don’t care what you say about Horford or Scola. Put either of those guys on this Soncis team, and neither of them would’ve done anything half as impressive at the type of year Durant was able to carve out.) He’s going to be a flat-out baller!!!! LOVE THAT GUY!!!!
Owner of the Year: Bennett (those emails were just brilliant Clay-Clay. )
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 pm
This is the toughest MVP race I’ve seen in a long time. Can’t really go wrong with KG, Lebron, Paul, or Kobe IMO. Arguments could also be made for Duncan and Dwight Howard. All are insanely good.
MVP = KG
Great teammate and a monster on both ends of the floor. Boston’s resurgence has been dramatic. They had the most wins in the league. Sure Ray and Pierce had a lot to do with it. But KG is the key piece that makes it all work.
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
“MOS: (Most Overrated Superstar)
1. T-Mac
2. Dirk
3. AI
4. J-Kidd
5. D-Wade” {sonicej}
If there was an award titled “Most Overrated Superstar,” then it’s pretty telling that Tracy McGrady would most likely garner the dishonor. That doesn’t bode well at all for Kevin Durant, as it’s a damning glimpse into his overhyped future.
Anyway, here’s my stab at it.
NBA All-Overrated Team
Al Jefferson
Carlos Boozer
Carmelo Anthony
Tracy McGrady
Jason Kidd
Also, here’s another interesting lineup.
NBA All-Overpaid Team
Ben Wallace
Zach Randolph
Andrei Kirilenko
Larry Hughes
Stephon Marbury
Well, there y’all have it.
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:16 pm
“ROY: KD (Nobody else is even close. I don’t care what you say about Horford or Scola. Put either of those guys on this Soncis team, and neither of them would’ve done anything half as impressive at the type of year Durant was able to carve out.) He’s going to be a flat-out baller!!!! LOVE THAT GUY!!!!” {Sonic Scott}
Kevin Durant would be FOURTH on my ballot for 2007-2008 NBA Rookie of the Year, with Thaddeus Young, Luis Scola, and Al Horford all finishing in front of him. Indeed, Durant hideous defense and abysmal on-court/off-court production places him solidly behind all three of those guys—there’s no denyin’ it!
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:17 pm
defensive player of the year
slade gorten
come back player of the year howie sargent schultz
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
As a Gator grad (Law School), I have a fondness for Al Horford. That being said, even I’m on the Kevin Durant for ROY platform.
I’m assuming that doesn’t make anyone “bitter” here.
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Regarding the NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award, it’s disgusting how stat-stuffing weakside help defenders get way more credit than stout man-to-man interior defenders.
Apropos of defense, I’d take Joel Przybilla and Radoslav Nesterovic over Marcus Camby and Ben Wallace any day of the week. Hell, Camby and Wallace aren’t even the best one-on-one low-post defenders on their given teams; Eduardo Najera and Anderson Varejao are better than them, respectively.
I’ve already gone over this topic numerous times, though, so there’s no point for me to rehash it over again with in-depth detail. It’s one of my more adamant positions, however.
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:48 pm
And I’d also like to protest Dwyane Wade’s inclusion on the overrated list. The guy single-handedly won a championship!
We even talk about it here: http://thesouthfloridafan.blogspot.com/2008/04/dwyane-wade-or-hanley-ramirez.html (Feel free to comment there with your opinions, btw)
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:06 am
D-Wade is great. Take a look at what happened to his supporting cast and you have to give him a pass on the blame for the Heats’ season.
T-Mac also gets a pass. If the Rockets had Alston and Yao the Jazz series would be totally different. Scola is an over-matched rookie against that Utah front line.
As for MVP. I think the MVP for the year should be the MVP of the finals. If you don’t win it all you probably do not deserve the MVP of the NBA for the year.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 am
sorry guys, i know this is a sonics site, but i would have to pick al horford as the roy.. though it’s a real toe-to-toe battle between horford and kd, horford’s impact in atlanta this season is really big..
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:16 am
NBA All-Overpaid Team
Ben Wallace
Zach Randolph
Andrei Kirilenko
Larry Hughes
Stephon Marbury
What about Jerome James?? lol
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 am
South Florida,
Dwyane Wade’s career path reminds me of an NFL RB.
What Wade did to the Mavericks in 2006 was amazing! No matter what happens from here on out he will always have the ring.
However, people are crazy if they think he is going to be that player ever again.
Due to all of the contact and injuries he has already endured in his short career, I for one believe he is past his prime at the age of 26.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 am
“T-Mac also gets a pass. If the Rockets had Alston and Yao the Jazz series would be totally different. Scola is an over-matched rookie against that Utah front line.”
Lol…why don’t we just give T-Mac a pass for his career?
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:22 am
At least Kirilenko is a good player from time to time. How about albatross contracts like Brian Scalabrine or Ben Gadzuric?
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 am
How about Stevie Frances getting paid 13.4 mil to NOT play for the Blazers?
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 am
How about Stevie Frances getting paid 13.4 mil to NOT play for the Blazers?
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:24 am
Howard Schultz: Man of the Year
HS: The Man who is saving the Seattle Supersonics
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:25 am
sonicej,
I really hope you’re wrong (about D-Wade). The good news is that his rehab is coming along well. He never should have played last year, and thankfully they shut him down in time to recuperate for next season.
I expect him to return to top form. Keep in mind…with Shaq basically not playing and the rest of the team hurt/sucking, the defenses were keying in on a 70% Wade all season. 2007-08 shouldn’t count against him. He’ll be back next year with a vengeance.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:29 am
“NBA All-Overpaid Team
Ben Wallace
Zach Randolph
Andrei Kirilenko
Larry Hughes
Stephon Marbury
What about Jerome James?? lol” {sonicej}
“At least Kirilenko is a good player from time to time. How about albatross contracts like Brian Scalabrine or Ben Gadzuric?” {The South Florida Fan}
I included more higher paid guys in my list, but Jerome James and Dan Gadzuric are fair choices — as neither of them deserve their mid-level deals — yet, when push came to shove, Ben Wallace beat out both of those guys due to his enormous salary.
I’ll rescind my selection of Andrei Kirilenko, however, since he’s still relatively productive despite his exorbitant contract. At this point in time, Bobby Simmons will replace Kirilenko—even though Rashard Lewis should supplant him in a couple of years.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:31 am
South Florida,
I hope I’m wrong about Wade as well. I like the guy. I’ve alway’s thought of him as the anti-T-Mac in that he would rather throw down than shoot a jump shot. I respect the hell out of him for that. We’ll see.
BTW, what’s the deal with Riles? Is he going to stick around as coach or what?
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:34 am
I think Riley waits to see who the draft pick is. If he likes him, then he’ll stay,
There’s no doubting Riley’s coaching abilities, but he was horrible this year, and his decisions are 100% self-serving (hence, throwing Stan Van Gundy under the bus)
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:49 am
T-Mac played well this season, but gets no pass on his career. He left it all out there in game 2 vs jazz though it wasn’t enough.
GO HOWIE! I might get a cup of coffee.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:50 am
“How about Stevie Frances getting paid 13.4 mil to NOT play for the Blazers?” {sonicej}
I discounted guys who were either retired, bought out, sufferring from a career-ending injury, waived under the amnesty provision, or released like Shawn Bradley, Chris Webber, Darius Miles, Michael Finley, and Steve Francis.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 am
KD is the ROY far and away!!!!
When a rookie gets 20 ppg on a team that is being sabotaged you have to give it to him.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:59 am
NBA All-Robbery First Team
Adonal Foyle (Released)
Chris Webber (Released/Retired)
Darius Miles (Career-Ending Injury)
Michael Finley (Amnesty)
Steve Francis (Released/Season-Ending Injury)
NBA All-Robbery Second Team
Shawn Bradley (Retired)
Jerome Williams (Amnesty)
Keith Van Horn (Semi-Retired)
Aaron McKie (Amnesty/Semi-Retired)
Bobby Sura (Career-Ending Injury)
April 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 am
I think the most impressive part of KD’s game this year was his D. Anyone remember what he did to guys like M. Redd this year?
April 23rd, 2008 at 1:25 am
“I think the most impressive part of KD’s game this year was his D. Anyone remember what he did to guys like M. Redd this year?” {sonicej}
Dude, you’ve got to be kidding here.
Kevin Durant is atrociously lax on man-to-man defense, doesn’t rotate properly as a weakside help defender, lacks the speed and agility to guard opposing wing players, and doesn’t possess the necessary strength to defend forwards.
All in all, Durant plays soft, uninspired defense.
April 23rd, 2008 at 1:28 am
CP3 all the way,, nothing short of amazing.
Durant ROY for sure.. hands down this kid is amazing. He sealed the deal when he clutched up with his huge OT 3’s
DHoward Dfence
April 23rd, 2008 at 1:47 am
Wait a second… is this a thread about basketball?!?!
April 23rd, 2008 at 2:06 am
http://tinyurl.com/6d3btz
Rookie of the year Durant on NEW Sonics vid.. check this out…
April 23rd, 2008 at 6:14 am
KD all the way!
April 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 am
Along with Kevin Durant being placed fourth on my ballot for 2007-2008 NBA Rookie of the Year — with Thaddeus Young, Luis Scola, and Al Horford all finishing soundly in front of him — Jeff Green didn’t even earn garner one iota of consideration from me for being placed on the 2007-2008 NBA All-Rookie First Team or the 2007-2008 NBA All-Rookie Second Team.
In all reality, Green was outperformed by fellow small forwards Young, Al Thornton, and Jamario Moon — as well as Jared Dudley and Wilson Chandler, who both played well upon getting increased playing time to end the season — throughout their respective rookie campaigns. Green, who’s lauded with undue praise from homers around here, is a fatally flawed combo forward.
April 23rd, 2008 at 8:05 am
AK1984 i live in Philly and get to watch all of the Sixers games, and Thaddeus Young is the steal of the draft, but not ROY! He really came on strong 3 months after the season started, and the award is for Rookie of the Year not rookie of the best 2 months! Durant is ROY and horford is the only one with a legit case, but Kevin carried this team the whole season, and got better and better as the year progressed! KD=ROY for OUR SEATTLE SONICS!!
April 23rd, 2008 at 8:48 am
Why is AK so down on Durant? Dude, did you even watch the 2nd half of the season??? Thadeus Young? Come on, man. Drop the pipe. He’s a good solid rookie, but not the ROY. It’s KD, hands down.
It’s a good thing you’re not voting.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:34 am
Thaddeus Young LOL.
Cmon Anthony. You know ROYs all about the counting stats.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 am
with Thaddeus Young, Luis Scola, and Al Horford all finishing soundly in front of him
- I know for a fact that I would sure want my 6′10″ PF that only shoots shots from the paint to have a .498 FG%. I’m actually surprised that you didn’t put Durant behind Carl Landry, Joakim Noah, Jamario Moon, Julian Wright…I mean if you are going to go out of your way to make a lame point of how much you don’t like him you might as well go all in.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:58 am
“Why is AK so down on Durant? Dude, did you even watch the 2nd half of the season??? Thadeus Young? Come on, man. Drop the pipe. He’s a good solid rookie, but not the ROY. It’s KD, hands down.
It’s a good thing you’re not voting.” {Sonic Scott}
Thaddeus Young is a well-rounded two-way player who helps his team win games, which is noted by his oustanding on-court/off-court statistical production.
The same can’t be said for Kevin Durant, whose improved field-goal shooting doesn’t negate his lack of progress on defense.
“Thaddeus Young LOL.
Cmon Anthony. You know ROYs all about the counting stats.” {Steve}
Yeah, Kevin Durant will definitely with the award.
Nonetheless, it’s somewhat odd that Al Hoford is getting a substantial amount of press for being the alternative choice—especially since Thaddeus Young actually deserves the acclaim for being an unselfish two-way player who’s played a huge role on a playoff team.
Hell, Young should get more publicity from the media.
April 23rd, 2008 at 11:01 am
AK,
You point out KD’s lack of defense, but ROY is based more on offensive ability. You’re right, Durant has ALOT to learn on how to play “D,” but that will come in time. He was being asked to score last season, and he did that in impressive fashion.
You said Young helped his team win games. How many games would the Sonics have won WITHOUT Durant last year? We’re talking single digits.
For a 19-year-old kid on a terrible team, with awful coaching, and a ton of off-court distractions, KD was a true professional who proved he’s going to be in the same class as Kobe or Lebron very soon.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
“Kevin Durant is atrociously lax on man-to-man defense, doesn’t rotate properly as a weakside help defender, lacks the speed and agility to guard opposing wing players, and doesn’t possess the necessary strength to defend forwards.”
We only have one player on our entire team that does those things…..Collison. AK how can you be so critical of his D yet so silent about Ray, Rashard, Luke etc etc etc. Rashard was one of the worst on the ball defenders I’ve ever seen. You continually go to extremes…..he isn’t that bad. He isn’t good…..but he is far from the worst. KD wasn’t drafted for defense.
Why do you continue to mask your admitted hatred of his “hype” with “he is the worst defender”. Not sure how you can be a sonics fan with our history of poor defensive play.
Keep it in perspective folks. AK hates Durant, McGrady, and Anthony. Loves Pryzbilla, Thaddeus Young, The Collins twins, Nesterovic, Varejao etc etc etc. How’s Shelden Williams doing?
Its his thing to be alternative to the masses.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
“Apropos of defense, I’d take Joel Przybilla and Radoslav Nesterovic over Marcus Camby and Ben Wallace any day of the week. Hell, Camby and Wallace aren’t even the best one-on-one low-post defenders on their given teams; Eduardo Najera and Anderson Varejao are better than them, respectively.”
I think most people around the world would disagree with you.
Pryzbilla and Nesterovic are stiffs.
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Is ROY going to be announced today? I believe last year’s ROY was named on April 23rd.
April 23rd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Thaddeus Young is a well-rounded two-way player who helps his team win games, which is noted by his oustanding on-court/off-court statistical production.
- Just keep in mind everyone…this statistic is only important when it proves AK’s point. The fact that Luke Ridnour was +3.2 and Earl Watson was -1.2 in the same exact statistic does not mean Ridnour is better than Watson because there is some other statistic that AK will use to prove that point. When that other statistic does not prove his point with another player we will be able to find one that does…
Just gotta look hard enough.
April 23rd, 2008 at 3:16 pm
The fact that Ray Allen now is on one of the best defenses of all time sort of proves me that defense is something that cannot be judged on a player by player basis.
April 23rd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
ROY: KD, of course. I think he deserves it, and that he’ll win it.
MVP: Kobe will win, methinks. But I don’t think Boston would be anywere near where they are now without KG. He’s my MVP.
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
“AK how can you be so critical of his D yet so silent about Ray, Rashard, Luke etc etc etc. Rashard was one of the worst on the ball defenders I’ve ever seen. You continually go to extremes…..he isn’t that bad. He isn’t good…..but he is far from the worst. KD wasn’t drafted for defense. ” {Menace}
I insult Rashard “Charmin” Lewis and Luke “The Golden Boy” Ridnour all the time, so you’re totally wrong on that account. In fact, I was one of the first people who constantly attacked Lewis for his worthless defense and inability to pass out of double teams.
“I think most people around the world would disagree with you.
Pryzbilla and Nesterovic are stiffs.” {Menace}
Radoslav Nesterovic has been tearing it up lately for the Toronto Raptors, as he’s finally gotten the chance to be a major part of the team’s offense. As it is, neither Nesterovic nor Joel Przybilla are stiffs.
“Keep it in perspective folks. AK hates Durant, McGrady, and Anthony. Loves Pryzbilla, Thaddeus Young, The Collins twins, Nesterovic, Varejao etc etc etc. How’s Shelden Williams doing?” {Menace}
I’ve already conceded in detail that Shelden Williams is a bust, with stated reasons for why he’s failed in the NBA.
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm
“The fact that Ray Allen now is on one of the best defenses of all time sort of proves me that defense is something that cannot be judged on a player by player basis.” {MyK}
Unlike piss-poor defenders like Kevin Durant, Rashard Lewis, and Luke Ridnour, Ray Allen is a least satisfactory on that end of the court. Allen has meshed well within the Boston Celtics’ top-notch defense, too, which is a testament to his overall abilities.
April 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Didn’t Durant did lead the team in blocks and steals? Doesn’t make him a good defender…..but that seems pretty amazing for someone who is supposedly so “piss poor” at D.
Is he the worst defensive player in the L AK?
April 23rd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Lets put it this way AK. You know my opinion on Mo Sene. You continually harping about Durant’s D……would be like me continually griping about Sene’s lack of a 3 pt shot/ball handling skills.
April 23rd, 2008 at 11:03 pm
“Didn’t Durant did lead the team in blocks and steals? Doesn’t make him a good defender…..but that seems pretty amazing for someone who is supposedly so “piss poor” at D.” {Menace}
Those stats don’t truly measure one’s defensive prowess, which I’m sure that Crow can explain in further detail than myself.
“Lets put it this way AK. You know my opinion on Mo Sene. You continually harping about Durant’s D……would be like me continually griping about Sene’s lack of a 3 pt shot/ball handling skills.” {Menace}
You, Myk, and I all perpetually mocked Mouhamed Sene.
Anyhow, the inconsistency with your analogy is that Sene is an out-’n'-out bust, while Kevin Durant is an all-around good player. My argument is that Durant will soon become a star player (e.g., Tracy McGrady, Carmelo Anthony, et al.), but won’t be productive enough to succeed as the primary option on a championship contender. Yet, on the other hand, there’s folks who foolishly believe that Durant will one day transform into a transcendent superstar — such as Dwight Howard, LeBron James, and Chris Paul, who all definitely fit that description — which, in my objective opinion, won’t be the ultimate outcome for him.
That’s my stance.
April 23rd, 2008 at 11:48 pm
AK is drunk.
April 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
“AK is drunk.” {Sonic Scott}
Nope …
April 26th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
“My argument is that Durant will soon become a star player (e.g., Tracy McGrady, Carmelo Anthony, et al.), but won’t be productive enough to succeed as the primary option on a championship contender.”
We won 20 games this year. Is that comparision a negative?
“Anyhow, the inconsistency with your analogy is that Sene is an out-’n’-out bust, while Kevin Durant is an all-around good player.”
You must be drunk. “Durant is an all-around good player”???? My point is that you continually attack his weakness. Attack something that isn’t expected.
To continually gripe about Durants D is like……..slamming Luke Ridnour for not being a great dunker/finisher in the lane. Or bashing Rob Swift for not being a 3 pt threat.
Durant wasn’t drafted for his D. If that was your expectation…..you were mis informed.