{"id":34,"date":"2011-11-18T06:29:14","date_gmt":"2011-11-18T06:29:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kcpelton.wordpress.com\/?p=34"},"modified":"2011-11-18T06:29:14","modified_gmt":"2011-11-18T06:29:14","slug":"never-the-twain-shall-meet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/2011\/11\/18\/never-the-twain-shall-meet\/","title":{"rendered":"Never the Twain Shall Meet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To start today&#8217;s post, let&#8217;s go all the way back to December 2007. My family, all of us Huskies, was sitting around discussing the possibility of traveling to a bowl game or the NCAA Tournament. My brother, frustrated by my cynicism about the chances of that happening in the near future, boldly declared that both football and men&#8217;s basketball will enjoy postseason play during the upcoming season.<\/p>\n<p>Had my brother done more research into the University of Washington&#8217;s history in the revenue-generating spots, he might have been a little less confident. In the 43 years since the Athletic Association of Western Universities reconstituted itself as the Pac-8 (eventually to become the Pac-10, the Pac-12 and perhaps someday the Pac-16), the Huskies have reached the NCAA tournament and played in a bowl game during the same academic year just six times &#8212; a three-year span from 1983-84 through 1985-86, back-to-back years in 1997-98 and 1998-99 and again last season.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that standards for postseason play in both sports have changed dramatically in the last four decades. So it was that in 1971-72, <strong>Jim Owens<\/strong>&#8216; charges could go 8-3 on the gridiron while <strong>Marv Harshman<\/strong>&#8216;s first hoops team went 20-6 and neither advanced to the postseason. (Sadly, the CBI wasn&#8217;t around to take the basketball team when it was snubbed by the NIT.) Still, the issue runs deeper than that. Take a look at a graph of Washington&#8217;s records in the revenue sports dating back to 1968-69:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-35\" title=\"111117_uw_yearly\" src=\"http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/111117_uw_yearly.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"573\" height=\"379\" srcset=\"http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/111117_uw_yearly.jpg 573w, http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/111117_uw_yearly-300x198.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 573px) 100vw, 573px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The two graphs look somewhat inverted. Basketball performance makes a &#8220;U&#8221; or a &#8220;V&#8221; &#8212; strong in the &#8217;70s and early &#8217;80s, then down most of the &#8217;90s before bouncing back in the 2000s. Meanwhile, football obviously peaked in the &#8217;90s and has struggled since.<\/p>\n<p>The inverse relationship between UW&#8217;s performance in football and men&#8217;s basketball becomes even more obvious when we chart the two records against each other:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-36\" title=\"111117_uw_best\" src=\"http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/111117_uw_best.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"573\" height=\"379\" srcset=\"http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/111117_uw_best.jpg 573w, http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/111117_uw_best-300x198.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 573px) 100vw, 573px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>For the most part, there&#8217;s a downward-sloping line, indicating that basketball does worse as football does better and vice versa. The correlation between the two winning percentages is -0.34, reflecting this inverse relationship and indicating that about a tenth in the variation in the Huskies&#8217; basketball record could be predicted just by knowing how the football team performed the previous fall.<\/p>\n<p>So far, 2011-12 is an outlier on the graph. I&#8217;m going to confidently predict that <strong>Lorenzo Romar<\/strong>&#8216;s team will not finish the season undefeated. Nevertheless, this has a chance to be one of the best combined seasons for Washington revenue sports. Given the stability of the basketball program and the upward trend in football under <strong>Steve Sarkisian<\/strong>, there is every reason to believe the Huskies can have success in both sports in years to come. The target is 1984-85, when <strong>Don James<\/strong> led the football team to a rare Orange Bowl victory and Harshman&#8217;s last team won the Pac-10 behind <strong>Detlef Schrempf<\/strong> and <strong>Christian Welp<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>There is an upside to having basketball and football teams constantly going in opposite directions, and it&#8217;s that Washington has rarely been bad in both sports at the same time. In fact, just once in the Pac-X era have the Huskies finished below .500 in both football and men&#8217;s basketball during the same academic year: 2007-08, the very season my brother predicted their success.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To start today&#8217;s post, let&#8217;s go all the way back to December 2007. My family, all of us Huskies, was sitting around discussing the possibility of traveling to a bowl game or the NCAA Tournament. 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