{"id":77,"date":"2012-02-23T17:33:45","date_gmt":"2012-02-23T17:33:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kcpelton.wordpress.com\/?p=77"},"modified":"2012-02-23T17:33:45","modified_gmt":"2012-02-23T17:33:45","slug":"romar-the-developer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/2012\/02\/23\/romar-the-developer\/","title":{"rendered":"Romar the Developer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I promised a few weeks ago, in the comments on <a href=\"http:\/\/kcpelton.wordpress.com\/2012\/01\/13\/in-defense-of-lorenzo-romar-a-partial-fjming\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>my Lorenzo Romar manifesto<\/strong><\/a>, that I would follow up with more data. I apologize that other projects have gotten in the way, but there&#8217;s good news. During the interim, <strong>Dan Hanner<\/strong> of RealGM.com (who joins me in contributing to the annual <em>College Basketball Prospectus<\/em> series) ran some of the numbers for me.<\/p>\n<p>If there&#8217;s one common semi-criticism of Romar, it&#8217;s that he can attract marquee talent but struggles when it comes to Xs and Os and does less with these players than he should. If not untrue, I tend to find this argument somewhat overstated. So compiling recruiting data was a key pillar of my follow-up piece. Fortunately, Hanner has done the work for me. In <a href=\"http:\/\/basketball.realgm.com\/article\/219157\/Recruiting_And_Player_Development_2012_Edition\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>a fascinating post this morning<\/strong><\/a>, he evaluates tenured major-conference coaches based on two factors: their recruiting (as measured using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rscihoops.com\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>RSCI rankings<\/strong><\/a> of the players they sign) and how those recruits subsequently develop offensively over the course of their college careers.<\/p>\n<p>Romar ranks 19th in recruiting, which is reasonably impressive. That&#8217;s second among Pac-12 coaches behind <strong>Ben Howland<\/strong>, with <strong>Sean Miller<\/strong> likely to leapfrog Romar after next season&#8217;s star-studded incoming class. Where Romar really shines by this measure, however, is in terms of developing players. He ranks fourth out of the 49 major-conference coaches, behind <strong>Matt Fox<\/strong>, <strong>Bo Ryan<\/strong> and <strong>Craig Robinson<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Granted, that&#8217;s not a who&#8217;s who of names, with the exception of Ryan. One of the shortcomings of this approach is that coaches who land top-10 recruiting chances have less ability to develop talent, both because the players are already that good and because they head to the NBA early. Still, coaches like Ryan and California&#8217;s <strong>Mike Montgomery<\/strong> (fifth) are renowned for their ability to produce good offenses because of complex systems, and Romar&#8217;s players are developing a similar amount. In fact, those two coaches probably have the most similar combination of recruiting\/developing to Romar. (Fox and Robinson have much lower recruiting scores.)<\/p>\n<p>This shouldn&#8217;t really be a surprise. While Romar has gotten his share of top-10 recruits, especially as compared to his predecessors at Washington, some of his best players have been relatively unheralded. By RSCI, <strong>Isaiah Thomas<\/strong>&#8211;averaging nearly 20 points over four starts for the Sacramento Kings during the last week&#8211;was the nation&#8217;s 85th-best recruit. <strong>Bobby Jones<\/strong>, a key contributor to Romar&#8217;s first three tournament teams who got multiple chances in the league, ranked 97th. <strong>Justin Holiday<\/strong> was unranked. <strong>Will Conroy<\/strong> came to UW (under <strong>Bob Bender<\/strong>, initially) as a walk-on. Even <strong>Brandon Roy<\/strong> (45th) was far from considered a sure thing nationally coming out of high school.<\/p>\n<p>Now maybe these players were just misjudged by recruiters. The success enjoyed by Roy and Thomas in the NBA suggests they truly were elite talents, and academic concerns were a factor in why they dropped in the rankings. Still, Romar and his staff have managed to develop and utilize these players to reach potential no one else saw.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I promised a few weeks ago, in the comments on my Lorenzo Romar manifesto, that I would follow up with more data. I apologize that other projects have gotten in the way, but there&#8217;s good news. During the interim, Dan &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/2012\/02\/23\/romar-the-developer\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"episode_type":"","audio_file":"","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"","filesize_raw":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"series":[],"class_list":["post-77","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-huskymbb"],"episode_featured_image":false,"episode_player_image":"https:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/peltoncast_itunes-1.jpg","download_link":"","player_link":"","audio_player":false,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"dark","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"stitcher":{"key":"stitcher","url":"","label":"Stitcher","class":"stitcher","icon":"stitcher.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/feed\/podcast\/the-fabulous-peltoncast","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"EYGtJyfrrU\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/2012\/02\/23\/romar-the-developer\/\">Romar the Developer<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/peltoncast\/2012\/02\/23\/romar-the-developer\/embed\/#?secret=EYGtJyfrrU\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Romar the Developer&#8221; &#8212; The Fabulous Peltoncast\" data-secret=\"EYGtJyfrrU\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n\/* <![CDATA[ *\/\n\/*! 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