Peltoncast No. 89: Seahawks Fire Darrell Bevell

We share our bracket for Seattle’s best dumplings, offer hopeful M’s hot takes, assess whether the Huskies pulled off another No L last weekend and evaluate the possibility Jacob Eason transfers to UW before reacting live to Curtis Crabtree’s report that the Seahawks have fired offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell starting at the 52-minute mark.

Contents

Intro – Unveiling our bracket for the search for Seattle’s best dumplings
15:00Tristan reviews his family’s new Nintendo Switch
26:00 – Breaking down the Sounders’ 2018 schedule
27:30 – A special winter edition of Mariners Hot Takes
31:30 – Was the Huskies’ win at WSU a No L?
42:30 – How good is potential UW transfer Eason?
52:00 – Understanding the Bevell news, plus what the Seahawks can expect from kicker Jason Myers

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Links
Search for Seattle’s Best Dumplings
Peltoncast with Hersey Hawkins
The Undefeated: “Who Dis?” with Mina Kimes
BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux
Seattle Times: Eason expected to transfer to UW
ESPN NCAA QBR
Jacob Eason on Sports-Reference.com
Transfer rules changes in NCAA?
Sports-Reference.com: NCAA TO/G Leaders
Pro Football Reference: extra point percentage
Was Tyler Lockett an All-Pro kick returner in 2017?
Bill Barnwell on reported Bevell firing

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Hersey Hawkins Interview

While in Portland recently, we had the chance to interview former Sonics guard Hersey Hawkins — now the player programs director for the Trail Blazers — about his four years in Seattle, including a trip to the 1996 NBA Finals, how the Gary PaytonShawn KempGeorge Karl era ended and whether Sir Mix-a-Lot singing “Feed the Hawk” was a blessing or a curse.

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Links:
Outtake: Because we conducted this interview in the room TNT was using for pregame interviews, Reggie Miller dropped in midway through and had some thoughts to share on the Hawk
YouTube: Who’s the King of the West Side?

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Was Tyler Lockett an All-Pro Kick Returner in 2017?

When the Associated Press announced NFL All-Pro teams Friday, there was a surprising response from some quarters of Seahawks Twitter. Instead of lamenting the players who didn’t make the team, or that Earl Thomas was chosen second team instead of first (besides noted 12 Bill Barnwell), fans instead took some issue with the idea that Tyler Lockett made All-Pro second team as a kick returner.

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The replies to Lars’ tweet suggest plenty of Seahawks fans agree with him. So they were surely surprised when I pointed out that according to Football Outsiders’ special teams DVOA, the Seahawks ranked third in the NFL in kick return value behind the L.A. Rams (whose returner Pharoh Cooper was chosen first team All-Pro ahead of Lockett) and the Baltimore Ravens (who had no individual player with more than 13 kick returns), making Lockett a logical selection.

The criticism of Lockett stems largely from his willingness to bring the ball out of the end zone rather than simply taking a touchback, which puts the ball at the 25 — generally a favorable result. (As I’ve noted in the past, I suspect Seahawks coaches want Lockett to bring the ball out; it’s hard to imagine he’s repeatedly defying their wishes.) And since Football Outsiders doesn’t exactly make clear how DVOA handles touchbacks, which were far less valuable back when it was introduced (back then, they took the ball only to the 20), I decided to do some additional research with the help of the invaluable Pro Football Reference play-by-play database.

Let’s start with a number of places where Seahawks fans are spot on. First, Lockett did tend to take the ball out of the end zone more than most returners. Just 44.6 percent of opponent kickoffs this season resulted in touchbacks, the league’s third-lowest rate behind the Kansas City Chiefs (34.8 percent) and Chicago Bears (44.0 percent). And while that owes partially to teams relatively rarely kicking the ball into the end zone against the Seahawks, Lockett returned 34 percent of kicks into the end zone, far higher than the league average of 23.4 percent.

Additionally, Seahawks fans are right that touchbacks are preferable to bringing out of the end zone. That’s true both generally and for the Seahawks specifically. The average kick into the end zone is returned short of the 23 yard line, much less favorable than getting the ball at the 25. And even with Lockett’s noted ability as a kick returner, he made it to the 25 just five times out of the 17 he brought it out of the end zone, reaching the 23 on average.

However, Lockett more than made up for it with his returns of kicks that never reached the end zone. Twelve of those 17 kicks saw Lockett at least reach the 25, and his average return (factoring in a touchdown against the Cardinals in last Sunday’s season finale as going to the 100 yard line) reached the 31.

To quantify Lockett’s value as a kick returner, we can turn to Pro Football Reference’s expected points added (EPA) model. That shows a touchback as worth 0.6 points to the returning team. The Seahawks’ average return* was worth 0.8 points, the league’s second-highest rate behind the Ravens (1.1). And since that rate is much higher than a touchback, the Seahawks are still number two in the league when we consider the outcome of all kickoffs. (In fact, since Baltimore had relatively more touchbacks, the Seahawks close much of the ground between the two teams.)

As compared to the average return, this model shows the Seahawks adding 12.3 points this season on kickoff returns, in the same ballpark of Football Outsiders’ estimate of 8.1 points better than league average. One notable difference between the two is that EPA shows the Seahawks ahead of the Rams, largely because Cooper lost a fumble on a kickoff and Lockett did not have a fumble all season.

So if anything, there’s actually a case to be made that Lockett belonged on the All-Pro first team as a returner. As frustrating as it might be to see Lockett come out of the end zone and be tackled short of the 25 — a strategy that’s still worth revisiting by Seahawks coaches this offseason — there’s no question he was one of the league’s best returners this season.

* Note that I switched here to saying the Seahawks from Lockett. That’s because this total also includes four kickoffs where the opponent kicked short to a blocker — three times to Luke Willson and once to Ethan Pocic. Those four kicks resulted in an average start at the 32 yard line. While Lockett didn’t actually handle the ball, I’d still credit these returns to him because it was the threat he poses that compelled teams to kick short. (Before beginning my analysis, I took out any squibs or onside kicks that would throw off the data.)

Also note that while it seemed like the Seahawks had a ton of return penalties that put them in a hole starting drives, those were largely on punt returns (10 penalties). The Seahawks committed just two penalties during kick returns.

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Peltoncast No. 88 with Danny Kelly

Special guest Danny Kelly joins us to revisit our 2017 NFL over-unders and discuss takeaways from Pete Carroll‘s season-end media availability. Plus UW men’s hoops continues to surprise and a grievance about Jake Browning critics. (Note if you’re listening with young ones that there’s a bit more profanity in this podcast than normal.)

Contents

Intro – Recapping a Peltoncast trip to Portland
18:00 – UW men’s hoops scores an upset in L.A.; how effective has the zone been?
28:30 – Are Browning doubters out of their minds?
31:00 – Which Huskies are heading to the NFL after the Fiesta Bowl loss?
40:30 – Taking score of our preseason NFL over-unders
1:17 – What did we learn about the Seahawks offseason from Carroll’s comments?

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Links
Danny Kelly on Twitter
Peltoncast State of the Seahawks with Ben Baldwin
The Mascot Game with Baby Fantasy Genius
2017 Seattle Sports Year in Review
2017 Music Year in Review
Peltoncast with Hersey Hawkins
OVG at Uptown Alliance meeting
Kevin on Isaiah Thomas/Dwyane Wade chemistry
Kenpom.com
HerHoopStats.com
NCAA QBR
Seattle Times: Mariners postseason drought is now the longest in the four major professional sports
An oral history of the Ringer’s fantasy draft
Ben B. on division rivals winning 11-plus games
Danny Kelly: Safety Kevin Byard could make the chaos the Titans need to overcome the Chiefs
Danny Kelly: The NFC West’s guard changed and the Seahawks couldn’t keep up
Darren K. on chewing gum
Chris Traeger quote
Ben B. comparison of rushing yards per carry inside 10 yard line

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State of the Seahawks with Ben Baldwin

After the Seahawks’ 2017 season came to an end short of the playoffs Sunday, special guest Ben Baldwin joins the Peltoncast to analyze what went wrong, take a look at which players will and won’t be back in 2018 and where the Seahawks stand in the bigger picture.

Apologies that Ben’s audio is a bit rough at times. Also, one note: We forgot to mention the possibility that DeShawn Shead’s contract will “toll,” automatically rolling over to 2018 because he returned so late in the season.

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Links:
Ben Baldwin on Twitter
2017 Seattle Sports Year in Review with Mina Kimes
Seahawks RBs inside 10 yard line
The News Tribune: Michael Bennett on his future
Earl Thomas on his future
Pete Carroll on retirement
Michael Silver: Colts will consider Tom Cable

List of teams with similar six-year runs to 2012-17 Seahawks:
Green Bay 1995-2000
Green Bay 2010-2015
Baltimore 2009-2014
San Diego 2005-2010
Denver 2011-2016
Pittsburgh 2004-2009

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The Mascot Game with Baby Fantasy Genius

To celebrate the end of 2017, Tristan’s son Luca (aka Baby Fantasy Genius) joins the Peltoncast to play his favorite game of the year, guessing the nicknames for Division I college teams.

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Peltoncast No. 87

The last regular Peltoncast of 2017 reviews Macklemore’s concerts and offers a state of UW men’s hoops entering conference play before considering the chances of the Seahawks making the playoffs and wrapping up with a complete preview of Husky football’s Fiesta Bowl matchup vs. Penn State.

Contents

Intro – Reviewing Macklemore’s pair of sellout shows at KeyArena
17:00 – Husky men’s hoops gets a final Nowell before beginning conference play in L.A.
29:00 – Looking at the Sounders’ schedule to start 2018
35:00 – Airing grievances on replay and Earl Thomas overreaction
40:00 – Seahawks host Cardinals in must-win (and get help from the Panthers)
58:30 – Similarities between Penn State and Washington

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Links
Peltoncast Music Year in Review
Peltoncast Seattle Sports Year in Review
Windy City Pie tweets at Tristan
Macklemore banner in KeyArena rafters
Seattle sports championship trophies including the Stanley Cup
Les Schwab Tires Invitational
Football Outsiders Playoff Odds
Football Outsiders RB yards
ESPN College Football Power Index
College Total QBR

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2017 Seattle Sports Year in Review with Mina Kimes

In an annual tradition, the Peltoncast counts down the top 10 Seattle sports stories of 2017 and Kevin and Tristan pick their sports figure of the year before welcoming in Mina Kimes to make bold predictions about what we’ll see in 2018.

Links:
Mina Kimes on Twitter
2016 Seattle sports year in review
Tristan’s unofficial 2016 Seattle sports figure of the year pick

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2017 Music Year in Review

A special Peltoncast sees Kevin and Tristan share their top 10 songs of 2017 while also breaking down the top 10 in Pitchfork’s year-end list.

Links to our top 10s:
Tristan’s top songs on Spotify
Tristan’s top songs on iTunes
Kevin’s top 10 on Spotify

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Peltoncast No. 86

After discussing Shake Shack and Chicago-style pizza in Seattle, plus rounding up Seattle sports, days before Festivus we air grievances on the Seahawks after a blowout home loss to the L.A. Rams left them on the verge of missing of missing the playoffs.

Contents

Intro – Recapping Kevin’s trip to New York
21:30David Bonderman visit
22:30 – UW roundup: Husky men’s hoops avoids home loss; football prepares for early signing day
31:30 – Sounders get opponent for CONCACAF Champions League
35:00 – Airing a grievances on the Seahawks trying to win now rather than win forever
50:00 – What does Ezekiel Elliott‘s return mean to the Cowboys?

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Links
ShakeShack to open doors in Seattle mid-2018
Loyal listener Damon C at Uneeda
Windy City Pie
Patxi’s Pizza
King5: Potential NHL owner meets with Seattle Mayor Durkan
ESPN Recruiting Nation class rankings
Sounder At Heart: Sounders acquire veteran Costa Rican international in trade with Crew
Football Outsiders RB DVOA
Stephen Jones on Dallas injuries

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